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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: tocadisco on October 09, 2012, 03:40 pm
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i used to abuse my adderall script 2 years ago for one year straight, and various other RC stimulants.
smoked, oral, and intranasal
question:
i am thinking about both snorting and smoking.
smoking for a quick fix that could last me 4 strong hours(?)
and snorting for slightly longer, when im not working, and can be functional.
what do you guys think, will .5g last me a long time, if i only dose ONCE/TWICE a day?
or should i just buy the gram?
i don't have time for abuse, and moderation is the key that i learned in the high points in my life
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moderate = twice a week
abuse = twice a day
just my 2c
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I can't fathom why you would try meth when you admit that you abused Adderall in the past. Meth is much, much stronger. What starts out as "just one hit a day" will most likely turn into tweaking for a few days straight, and then wanting more. If I were you, I'd go to someone I trust and who is cool with my drug use and give them the bag, promising not to let me take more than 10-20mg a day.
In any case, snort it if you're looking for a kick but not to get high as fuck.
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I can't fathom why you would try meth when you admit that you abused Adderall in the past. Meth is much, much stronger. What starts out as "just one hit a day" will most likely turn into tweaking for a few days straight, and then wanting more. If I were you, I'd go to someone I trust and who is cool with my drug use and give them the bag, promising not to let me take more than 10-20mg a day.
In any case, snort it if you're looking for a kick but not to get high as fuck.
well it is a lot more than abuse to adderall that leads me to this.
i know meth is much stronger, but it is a high i have desired ever since i tried mdpv, and smoked it to death.
thing is i know what moderation is, abused every sort of drug to the T, and was on xanax and adderall for 1 year 1/2 before i realized i needed help.
now been sober, except for two trips on lsd/two mdma for 1 full year now.
also thing is that, this will be traveling with me to a country not on SR, so when i run out. guess what i run out of sources also!
planned this well imo
have a mg scale also, so will measure out 10mg-15mg testers i believe
does this sound good?
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I can't honestly say it "sounds good," then, no. To start using one of, if not THE most powerful drug in your favorite class of drugs, one that you've "desired ever since..." and after you've been sober for a year and a half... it sounds like a relapse waiting to happen. Luckily you won't be in a position to get a lot more.
I don't know you, though, so I can't really fully judge the situation. Maybe you have a total handle on your drug use and cravings.
I can say from experience though, just because you have a limited quantity of a substance won't make you not use it. Whatever choice you make, I wish you the best of luck.
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i don't have time for abuse, and moderation is the key that i learned in the high points in my life
You can't "learn" moderation. If you are messing with certain drugs it is very difficult to control. Maybe if you are the type of person who can use a substance, enjoy the hell out of it, and never use it again or thinka bout using it again then Meth would be ok to use. But you said you abused a similar drug for a couple of years. It really seems like you are playing with fire.
I do not want to judge anyone or say that one drug is inherently better or worse than the other. I have met more people in my life than I can count on both hands who have had their goals, their bodies, their minds and their relationships destroyed by Meth. No one starts off wanting to be so addicted that they beg borrow and steal to feed the monkey on their back. I have heard so many people say that the first hit made them stop caring about anything but how to get more.
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I've tried heroin, and a hand full of other "Hard Drugs," but I really do not know why in gods name someone would want to use Methamphetamine.
I've never tried it though so I can't say much, nor am I bashing it. It just seems a bit pointless.
After all it is pretty much the same as Amphetamine Salts, which I think, and have heard from plenty of others that they prefer, and like Amphetamine Salts more than Methamphetamine.
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smoking meth is fun....it's very easy to go thru a gram in a day...just blowing fat clouds...that cotton candy aftertaste you get as you exhale...then the ninjas (shadow people) show up....then it's not so fun anymore...
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Start with a very small dose orally if at all. I've seen people loose everything they have to meth. Everyone acts like Heroin is this evil drug but it doesn't compare to meth. I know 2 heavy heroin users that choose meth over heroin. Don't know any meth users who have switched to Heroin. The problem is you do a little to much and then find it being 6am and wide awake. By need and not choice you talk your self into doing a little more to make it through the day. This turns into your daily routine and next thing you know your up days and days and days. If you liked adderall you will love meth and before you know it meth will be the only thing you love.
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i don't have time for abuse, and moderation is the key that i learned in the high points in my life
You can't "learn" moderation. If you are messing with certain drugs it is very difficult to control. Maybe if you are the type of person who can use a substance, enjoy the hell out of it, and never use it again or thinka bout using it again then Meth would be ok to use. But you said you abused a similar drug for a couple of years. It really seems like you are playing with fire.
I do not want to judge anyone or say that one drug is inherently better or worse than the other. I have met more people in my life than I can count on both hands who have had their goals, their bodies, their minds and their relationships destroyed by Meth. No one starts off wanting to be so addicted that they beg borrow and steal to feed the monkey on their back. I have heard so many people say that the first hit made them stop caring about anything but how to get more.
i actually went from being an addict, learning much in rehab. and coming out a new person
in my past i had no idea of the word moderation, i have a plethora and surplus of every drug, and it was always around.
i was always looking to get messed up, because nothing mattered.
now i have a purpose in life, and understand i can't sit on the couch and smoke and toke all day or whatever it may be.
i thank you for your input though. in my situation , i am fortunate due to the fact i will be departing out of the country and won't be back for weeks. can't buy it in the country that i will be in. only readily available high dosed LSD/MDMA =)
fine by me
Start with a very small dose orally if at all. I've seen people loose everything they have to meth. Everyone acts like Heroin is this evil drug but it doesn't compare to meth. I know 2 heavy heroin users that choose meth over heroin. Don't know any meth users who have switched to Heroin. The problem is you do a little to much and then find it being 6am and wide awake. By need and not choice you talk your self into doing a little more to make it through the day. This turns into your daily routine and next thing you know your up days and days and days. If you liked adderall you will love meth and before you know it meth will be the only thing you love.
Start with a very small dose orally if at all. I've seen people loose everything they have to meth. Everyone acts like Heroin is this evil drug but it doesn't compare to meth. I know 2 heavy heroin users that choose meth over heroin. Don't know any meth users who have switched to Heroin. The problem is you do a little to much and then find it being 6am and wide awake. By need and not choice you talk your self into doing a little more to make it through the day. This turns into your daily routine and next thing you know your up days and days and days. If you liked adderall you will love meth and before you know it meth will be the only thing you love.
okay got ya. thanks for the input everyone. i put up with adderall abuse, but will never go back to that. it's weak and undesired. MDPV was about as fiendish as it got for me (smoking) . Also another thing that will work out for me is that, when the meth arrives to me in the US, i have work 6 out of 7 days a week. impossible for me to smoke at night, only to start a day off ONCE.
if you don't abuse meth, no problems right?
i work out five days a week ( heavy lifting) , and have beautiful girlfriends that i care about a lot.
i see meth as an appetite suppresant, and euphoria IMO
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But did you go to rehab for amphetamines more specifically or just a general need? Cause if you went to rehab for some Adderall, I can only imagine how Meth would go for you... If you've never tried a drug you should heed the advice of the people that have, even if that advice is 'don't do it' which it apparently is.
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But did you go to rehab for amphetamines more specifically or just a general need? Cause if you went to rehab for some Adderall, I can only imagine how Meth would go for you... If you've never tried a drug you should heed the advice of the people that have, even if that advice is 'don't do it' which it apparently is.
no i went to rehab, because i couldn't get a control on my life. i lived for drugs..only drugs.
xanax/adderall every other day for 1 year 1/2 .
weed 2 years everyday.
shrooms 80 times
xtc 70-80 times
RC's out the ass maybe over 100 times
now, i have control in my life. i have done lsd, and mdma, and felt no need to redose, or ask for more.
i have finally learned the word moderation.
serious, rehab taught me a shit load about life in general.
if anything im a new person.
i know i am playing with fire here, but my situation is plausible.
i can't redose, because i have work everyday at 6-7am , it depends.
the real question is...will i be able to come down/sleep if i snort a small line at 7am and don't redose?
other wise i will just wait for a tranquilizer
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IMHO you shouldn't touch or even be considering touching meth if adderall had such an abhorrent hold over your life.
You may as well swallow a thermonuclear weapon and call it a day with the aftermath of destruction doing meth will do to someone so easily taken a hold of.
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^ You see this? Stop planning out your dose schedule, just don't fuckin do it.
I've been addicted to xanax and thats a bitch, but that's the only seriously addictive drug you listed. I am prescribed Vyvanse every day, have been prescribed addie for 5 years, I smoke weed most days, every day for 3-5 years or so. I drink most days, What the fuck are RCs??? I've done piles of shrooms, plenty acid, plenty MDMA, MDA, plenty coke when partying (never developed a habit due to anxiety) and a bunch of painkillers for 3 surgeries 30 shoulder dislocations which im still recovering from. I understand that your rehab stay way necessary for your own life circumstance, but don't underestimate Meth man, I've never done it and never will. If you were even slightly addicted to Adderall than Meth is gonna fuck your world up, cause I have an addictive personality and find Rx amphetamines to be very non-addictive.
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^ You see this? Stop planning out your dose schedule, just don't fuckin do it.
I've been addicted to xanax and thats a bitch, but that's the only seriously addictive drug you listed. I am prescribed Vyvanse every day, have been prescribed addie for 5 years, I smoke weed most days, every day for 3-5 years or so. I drink most days, What the fuck are RCs??? I've done piles of shrooms, plenty acid, plenty MDMA, MDA, plenty coke when partying (never developed a habit due to anxiety) and a bunch of painkillers for 3 surgeries 30 shoulder dislocations which im still recovering from. I understand that your rehab stay way necessary for your own life circumstance, but don't underestimate Meth man, I've never done it and never will. If you were even slightly addicted to Adderall than Meth is gonna fuck your world up, cause I have an addictive personality and find Rx amphetamines to be very non-addictive.
RC = 'Research Chemical' like MDPV, 2C-I/C/E/B/P/etc., Methylone, etc.
A name that disgusts me because ALL chemical's (even weed ... well THC/CBD/CBN) are fucking research chemicals !
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I have known a few people with ADHD who took to meth. The tweak makes them good maids and students but in the end 1 hit a day turns into 5 or 6 with anything. RC's, some very amazing and others nasty, are not for the faint of heart. It all depends of what you know and whats the real truth.
I for one dont care if you do meth or smack but with meth its always best to give the bag to someone. 1 hit a day and out of sight out of mind but your giving amazing power into someones hands.
If you had a issue with you medication you will have a issue with this and thats just fact but i say go for it if you think you know what your doing and are ready to accept a devil into your life.
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smoking meth is fun....it's very easy to go thru a gram in a day...just blowing fat clouds...that cotton candy aftertaste you get as you exhale...then the ninjas (shadow people) show up....then it's not so fun anymore...
if you smoke a gram a day by yourself you are an idiot.
you waste a sheer megaton of meth and those fat clouds are probably over heated smoke not vapor.
you got the bubblegum flavor right but i probably only last the first quarter of the bowl because you over heat the meth.
go get some correct info on proper vaporization of methamphet.
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smoking meth is fun....it's very easy to go thru a gram in a day...just blowing fat clouds...that cotton candy aftertaste you get as you exhale...then the ninjas (shadow people) show up....then it's not so fun anymore...
if you smoke a gram a day by yourself you are an idiot.
you waste a sheer megaton of meth and those fat clouds are probably over heated smoke not vapor.
you got the bubblegum flavor right but i probably only last the first quarter of the bowl because you over heat the meth.
go get some correct info on proper vaporization of methamphet.
That's a good point. Also, you're wasting if you're using foil. I didn't truely understand how much more you get from a pipe. You really do get more from a pipe, as well as an eaiser way to distrubute heat evenly. Straight to black and your flame technique is whack. The only way i could immagine one person using a gram in a day is they had bad technique, bad quality meth(I mean horriable junk for you to use a gram.) , or an extremely high tolerance. I've only known of one person that legitmatly used a gram a day. (They used IV.) But, they had been using for 16 years daily.
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A gram a day, fuck.
May as well say bye bye to a vast quantity of dopiminergic neurons in your brain.
Fuck, doing it for fun is great (well not for me, methamphetamine is the most disgusting drug that I know of, except perhaps MDPV ... except for the constant constant use of meth that the drug induces vs. the ... hopefully not constant use of MDPV.) No judgemment meant though if meth is your drug of choice then that's your business and none of my business :), but bragging that you smoke a gram a day is just retarted and a true reflection of just how many brain cell's you've seriously fucked up in your brain.
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This sounds like a bad idea to me. Just like others have said, if you have had issues with substances like adderal, etc. then meth is not going to be your friend. All the best either way, but you're likely to be better off without.
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smoking meth is fun....it's very easy to go thru a gram in a day...just blowing fat clouds...that cotton candy aftertaste you get as you exhale...then the ninjas (shadow people) show up....then it's not so fun anymore...
if you smoke a gram a day by yourself you are an idiot.
you waste a sheer megaton of meth and those fat clouds are probably over heated smoke not vapor.
you got the bubblegum flavor right but i probably only last the first quarter of the bowl because you over heat the meth.
go get some correct info on proper vaporization of methamphet.
That's a good point. Also, you're wasting if you're using foil. I didn't truely understand how much more you get from a pipe. You really do get more from a pipe, as well as an eaiser way to distrubute heat evenly. Straight to black and your flame technique is whack. The only way i could immagine one person using a gram in a day is they had bad technique, bad quality meth(I mean horriable junk for you to use a gram.) , or an extremely high tolerance. I've only known of one person that legitmatly used a gram a day. (They used IV.) But, they had been using for 16 years daily.
i will get .500 mg to start out. and test the waters
if it lasts me more than 2 weeks, i did something right.
i don't have time to abuse a substance under my circumstances.
impossible for the lifestyle that i live and lead
i have already let drugs put a stop to my life, but i had nothing to live for besides drugs.
NOW, i have goals, and lots to live for, beautiful life now. and not a single drug could change it (srs)
thing is i will probably use foil for meth.
although i have a meth pipe that i TRIED to use for MDPV, but it never worked
i don't have a clue how to roll and smoke a substance in a glass bowl
i got fed up a year 1/2 ago and haven't touched it since
would i really get more out of the substance?
seems complicated for me to smoke in glass pipe
any tutorials?
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smoking meth is fun....it's very easy to go thru a gram in a day...just blowing fat clouds...that cotton candy aftertaste you get as you exhale...then the ninjas (shadow people) show up....then it's not so fun anymore...
if you smoke a gram a day by yourself you are an idiot.
you waste a sheer megaton of meth and those fat clouds are probably over heated smoke not vapor.
you got the bubblegum flavor right but i probably only last the first quarter of the bowl because you over heat the meth.
go get some correct info on proper vaporization of methamphet.
That's a good point. Also, you're wasting if you're using foil. I didn't truely understand how much more you get from a pipe. You really do get more from a pipe, as well as an eaiser way to distrubute heat evenly. Straight to black and your flame technique is whack. The only way i could immagine one person using a gram in a day is they had bad technique, bad quality meth(I mean horriable junk for you to use a gram.) , or an extremely high tolerance. I've only known of one person that legitmatly used a gram a day. (They used IV.) But, they had been using for 16 years daily.
i will get .500 mg to start out. and test the waters
if it lasts me more than 2 weeks, i did something right.
i don't have time to abuse a substance under my circumstances.
impossible for the lifestyle that i live and lead
i have already let drugs put a stop to my life, but i had nothing to live for besides drugs.
NOW, i have goals, and lots to live for, beautiful life now. and not a single drug could change it (srs)
thing is i will probably use foil for meth.
although i have a meth pipe that i TRIED to use for MDPV, but it never worked
i don't have a clue how to roll and smoke a substance in a glass bowl
i got fed up a year 1/2 ago and haven't touched it since
would i really get more out of the substance?
seems complicated for me to smoke in glass pipe
any tutorials?
Yeah, mdpv doesn't work in a pipe. I have found most people mess up when it comes to a glass bowl because they leave the flame on for too long. Normally near the end of my hit, i let off the lighter. also, making sure you have intake of air is important. You're cooling the meth off through the carb while heating it from underneath. Rolling is so it doesn't get stuck, and if you think you have your flame too close, then you probably do. I've found i pull the best hits when i keep this thought in my mind. "I'm heating the glass so it can heat the meth. I'm not heating the meth, the glass is heating the meth." I don't know if that will help, and i don't really know how to explain my teqhnique. It's just something that i've done so many times, that i do it without thinking. It just happens.
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People will do what they do. Former speed addict should not be trying meth period. There's no excuses for that. But if you think you can beat the odds then go for it. But I can say with confidence people previously addicted to regular amphetamine that try meth become addicted to meth well over half the time.
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People will do what they do. Former speed addict should not be trying meth period. There's no excuses for that. But if you think you can beat the odds then go for it. But I can say with confidence people previously addicted to regular amphetamine that try meth become addicted to meth well over half the time.
This is a really good point. This same thought of reasoning is why i can't use any benzoids. I really want to try some of the newer ones, but i'm afriad of having problems with them since i had such an addiction to xanax.
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i don't have time to abuse a substance under my circumstances.
impossible for the lifestyle that i live and lead
i have already let drugs put a stop to my life, but i had nothing to live for besides drugs.
NOW, i have goals, and lots to live for, beautiful life now. and not a single drug could change it (srs)
Lets see if you can remember those goals after two or three fat hits. You'll be surprised how irrelevant that lifestyle and and those goals will become after only a few tokes. They may outright annoy you for keeping you from reloading the pipe.
Look man, I really dun wanna come off all father-y or moral-y. But you are not playing with fire, you are playing with a thermonuclear warhead. I have seen stock brokers and lawyers get hooked within a week or two. High-powered "go-getters" with plenty of goals and ambition for their lives.
What you think is your strength, the lifestyle, the goals, the good stuff you have now, is EXACTLY what this drug will make irrelevant to you. And it does so in a fucking sneaky way, because I guarantee you at first you will think it actually makes you more efficient at realizing your goals.
Well, free country, free people and all. Do what you must. At least you are doing your research.
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Yeah, mdpv doesn't work in a pipe. I have found most people mess up when it comes to a glass bowl because they leave the flame on for too long. Normally near the end of my hit, i let off the lighter. also, making sure you have intake of air is important. You're cooling the meth off through the carb while heating it from underneath. Rolling is so it doesn't get stuck, and if you think you have your flame too close, then you probably do. I've found i pull the best hits when i keep this thought in my mind. "I'm heating the glass so it can heat the meth. I'm not heating the meth, the glass is heating the meth." I don't know if that will help, and i don't really know how to explain my teqhnique. It's just something that i've done so many times, that i do it without thinking. It just happens.
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so keep my finger on the carb, while lighting the bottom of the bowl, while rolling it, and sucking up?
or just heat the bowl, with ice inside, with hand on carb, then start sucking?
been confusing ever since i got the glass bowl.
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i don't have time to abuse a substance under my circumstances.
impossible for the lifestyle that i live and lead
i have already let drugs put a stop to my life, but i had nothing to live for besides drugs.
NOW, i have goals, and lots to live for, beautiful life now. and not a single drug could change it (srs)
Lets see if you can remember those goals after two or three fat hits. You'll be surprised how irrelevant that lifestyle and and those goals will become after only a few tokes. They may outright annoy you for keeping you from reloading the pipe.
Look man, I really dun wanna come off all father-y or moral-y. But you are not playing with fire, you are playing with a thermonuclear warhead. I have seen stock brokers and lawyers get hooked within a week or two. High-powered "go-getters" with plenty of goals and ambition for their lives.
What you think is your strength, the lifestyle, the goals, the good stuff you have now, is EXACTLY what this drug will make irrelevant to you. And it does so in a fucking sneaky way, because I guarantee you at first you will think it actually makes you more efficient at realizing your goals.
Well, free country, free people and all. Do what you must. At least you are doing your research.
thanks for this, seriously.
i will take it with ease.
but can guarantee you, a drug cannot over power me anymore.
i overcame this. rehab changed me for my whole damn life
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
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Saying drugs will never take hold of you again is just plain ignorant. You think you beat your addiction with rehab? You would NOT be buying METHAMPHETAMINE THEN. A drug that the main effect is a lack of self control, and you think you can control that? And smoking it no less, the ROA that is guaranteed to have you gacked and up for days + wanting more.
By all means, give your experiment a go. But we all did warn you of what would happen. It really is a joke to say you're just going to smoke meth once a day or w/e. You don't get to decide what to do the meth does it for you.
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
Please get a glass piece. If you can afford meth you can afford a five dollar bowl. Tin foil is so wasteful, and it has a way of irratating the lungs. But, i would start off with 25mgs. There's no point in blowing your tolerance out the water. You want your tolerance to be as low for long as posisble. Have fun. :P Also, don't be suprised when you smoke all of it even though you said you were going to put the bag up and go to bed.
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
Please get a glass piece. If you can afford meth you can afford a five dollar bowl. Tin foil is so wasteful, and it has a way of irratating the lungs. But, i would start off with 25mgs. There's no point in blowing your tolerance out the water. You want your tolerance to be as low for long as posisble. Have fun. :P Also, don't be suprised when you smoke all of it even though you said you were going to put the bag up and go to bed.
Hey, i do have a glass piece.
BUT
i had trouble burning MDPV in there so i would suppose it would be equally as hard to burn METH?
i don't know how the mechanism works to smoke it...
heat glass bowl, hand on carb, wait for smoke, hand off carb?
help?
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
Please get a glass piece. If you can afford meth you can afford a five dollar bowl. Tin foil is so wasteful, and it has a way of irratating the lungs. But, i would start off with 25mgs. There's no point in blowing your tolerance out the water. You want your tolerance to be as low for long as posisble. Have fun. :P Also, don't be suprised when you smoke all of it even though you said you were going to put the bag up and go to bed.
Hey, i do have a glass piece.
BUT
i had trouble burning MDPV in there so i would suppose it would be equally as hard to burn METH?
i don't know how the mechanism works to smoke it...
heat glass bowl, hand on carb, wait for smoke, hand off carb?
help?
No hand on carb. The carb is meant for air. You want to gently hit while you're lighting form underneath. Keeping your flame at least an inch and a half away. Don't ever touch the bowl with direct flame. Gently hit though carb to pull air through the bowl. The reason you do this is you're trying to use fresh air to cool the meth. Think of it like this. You're trying to reach that certian temp that meth vapes at and keep it at that temp. So by lowering your flame (pulling away from bowl slowly) and pulling colder air through the carb. You are trying to keep the enviorement inside the bowl as controlled as possible. It takes some practice to get good at it. Also, slowly twirling the bowl, helps the meth run and not stick in one spot and flash. Take your time on hits and try to see how many hits u can get off one puddle. If you do it right, the meth should disapear in front of your eyes. Start with meth because mdpv is one of the hardest things i have ever vaped because of it's flash point and vape point being so close together it makes it really hard not to make it combust. I know it sounds crazy but you work your way up to mdpv by getting some practice on meth. Meth seems to be more forgiving of burning. If you take the time to make mdpv freebase that's the best way to go.
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
Please get a glass piece. If you can afford meth you can afford a five dollar bowl. Tin foil is so wasteful, and it has a way of irratating the lungs. But, i would start off with 25mgs. There's no point in blowing your tolerance out the water. You want your tolerance to be as low for long as posisble. Have fun. :P Also, don't be suprised when you smoke all of it even though you said you were going to put the bag up and go to bed.
Hey, i do have a glass piece.
BUT
i had trouble burning MDPV in there so i would suppose it would be equally as hard to burn METH?
i don't know how the mechanism works to smoke it...
heat glass bowl, hand on carb, wait for smoke, hand off carb?
help?
No hand on carb. The carb is meant for air. You want to gently hit while you're lighting form underneath. Keeping your flame at least an inch and a half away. Don't ever touch the bowl with direct flame. Gently hit though carb to pull air through the bowl. The reason you do this is you're trying to use fresh air to cool the meth. Think of it like this. You're trying to reach that certian temp that meth vapes at and keep it at that temp. So by lowering your flame (pulling away from bowl slowly) and pulling colder air through the carb. You are trying to keep the enviorement inside the bowl as controlled as possible. It takes some practice to get good at it. Also, slowly twirling the bowl, helps the meth run and not stick in one spot and flash. Take your time on hits and try to see how many hits u can get off one puddle. If you do it right, the meth should disapear in front of your eyes. Start with meth because mdpv is one of the hardest things i have ever vaped because of it's flash point and vape point being so close together it makes it really hard not to make it combust. I know it sounds crazy but you work your way up to mdpv by getting some practice on meth. Meth seems to be more forgiving of burning. If you take the time to make mdpv freebase that's the best way to go.
great thank you for this man...
no one mentions what the come-down is like on METH?
is it horrible, will i absolutley need benzo's?
ALSO
how would you compare SNORTING v SMOKED v ORAL ?
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I wish you the best bruvva. Keep your hand on the emergency break man and be ready to hit it if you must!
Good luck!
why thank you good sir.
what dosage should i start off with? and dose it chase well on foil?
i have a miligram scale
Please get a glass piece. If you can afford meth you can afford a five dollar bowl. Tin foil is so wasteful, and it has a way of irratating the lungs. But, i would start off with 25mgs. There's no point in blowing your tolerance out the water. You want your tolerance to be as low for long as posisble. Have fun. :P Also, don't be suprised when you smoke all of it even though you said you were going to put the bag up and go to bed.
Hey, i do have a glass piece.
BUT
i had trouble burning MDPV in there so i would suppose it would be equally as hard to burn METH?
i don't know how the mechanism works to smoke it...
heat glass bowl, hand on carb, wait for smoke, hand off carb?
help?
No hand on carb. The carb is meant for air. You want to gently hit while you're lighting form underneath. Keeping your flame at least an inch and a half away. Don't ever touch the bowl with direct flame. Gently hit though carb to pull air through the bowl. The reason you do this is you're trying to use fresh air to cool the meth. Think of it like this. You're trying to reach that certian temp that meth vapes at and keep it at that temp. So by lowering your flame (pulling away from bowl slowly) and pulling colder air through the carb. You are trying to keep the enviorement inside the bowl as controlled as possible. It takes some practice to get good at it. Also, slowly twirling the bowl, helps the meth run and not stick in one spot and flash. Take your time on hits and try to see how many hits u can get off one puddle. If you do it right, the meth should disapear in front of your eyes. Start with meth because mdpv is one of the hardest things i have ever vaped because of it's flash point and vape point being so close together it makes it really hard not to make it combust. I know it sounds crazy but you work your way up to mdpv by getting some practice on meth. Meth seems to be more forgiving of burning. If you take the time to make mdpv freebase that's the best way to go.
great thank you for this man...
no one mentions what the come-down is like on METH?
is it horrible, will i absolutley need benzo's?
ALSO
how would you compare SNORTING v SMOKED v ORAL ?
I dont' really get a comedown to be honest. I normally crash. Which is like bigger crash. I normally just sleep a lot and i'm pretty cranky. Sometimes i get suicidial, but that comes from playin with those brain receptors haha.
Snorting=more euphoria/longer duration
smoking=more of a rush/shorter duration
Oral=I don't know because i've never took it oral./longest duration
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thanks for this, seriously.
i will take it with ease.
but can guarantee you, a drug cannot over power me anymore.
i overcame this. rehab changed me for my whole damn life
BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!
THats all I have to say about that. That is such an arrogantly over-confident statement bordering on delusional. Not to say I know anything about you other than what drugs you have done, but if you had to go to rehab for fucking ADDERALL which is a non-addictive drug, then don't sit here and tell me you are immune to drug addiction for the rest of your life because of some little stint in rehab. Its people that are so brazen like yourself that often end up fucking their lives up the worst. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE HARD DRUGS! As long as you stay on your toes, and always recognize the power of certain drugs and the simple fact that any use of Meth will make you very much prone to addition, then maybe you can manage it, but you need a serious attitude adjustment before you even think about trying to manage a Meth habit.
Right now you have a strong combination of arrogance and ignorance goin on. I don't reccomend arrogance and ignorance when approaching the use of hard addictive drugs.
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Meth is my weapon of choice but there's a science to it, i always have my xanax to help put my mind to sleep and help me avoid staying up and getting into neurotoxicity and always drink a ton of water and eat something every 4-5hrs even if its just a protein bar or shake. If you have had an addiction in the past I would absolutely warn against trying it especially since the substance you were abusing was in the same family tree. If you thought adderall was addictive Meth is far more hard to manage reponsibly. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live their life but i just don't want someone to make a decision that looks like at this point it could be a serious relapse. Best of luck and be safe no matter what, your life's more important than a high thats for sure!
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Meth is my weapon of choice but there's a science to it, i always have my xanax to help put my mind to sleep and help me avoid staying up and getting into neurotoxicity and always drink a ton of water and eat something every 4-5hrs even if its just a protein bar or shake. If you have had an addiction in the past I would absolutely warn against trying it especially since the substance you were abusing was in the same family tree. If you thought adderall was addictive Meth is far more hard to manage reponsibly. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to live their life but i just don't want someone to make a decision that looks like at this point it could be a serious relapse. Best of luck and be safe no matter what, your life's more important than a high thats for sure!
hey guys, tried meth first time yesterday
good high, i also got some sleep maybe 5 hours.
let me say that my dosages never go above 70-80mg per day. never even close, not one sitting either
maybe this is why not much euphoria?
and im on meth again. its an interesting high, i would definitely say that i was expecting more euphoria(maybe i need to take bigger hits?) i'm not sure though yet.
also, where the fuck is the increased drive for sex that everyone talks about???????
please someone chime in, i have stim dick, and i don't have any more drive to fuck anything that walks!
(i take testostorone supplements, and this works better than meth for this part) lol
i would say Meth is as fiendish as MDPV. although i would never touch that devil shit mdpv again.
once my .500mg is gone of meth, i won't return for a long while.
not worth my cardiovascular health, and brain.
honestly i really miss heavy lifting, i can't do shit without my heart rate blasting off into the moon!
shit!
also
what would you guys reccomend for a comedown remedy?
i took benadryl last night, and i think i was "dream-waking" if that makes since, i think i was asleep, but im not 100% sure..
pretty fucked but yeah. haha
rambling!
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BS, adderall is a non-addictive drug?
can you please provide some evidence and cite the sources for that claim?
imo it most certainly has the potential to be addictive... its a dopamine releasing agent/re-uptake inhibitor - basically the definition of an addictive drug from a neuropharmacology viewpoint (just like meth except less potency and basically no intrinsic serotonergic activity)
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BS, adderall is a non-addictive drug?
can you please provide some evidence and cite the sources for that claim?
imo it most certainly has the potential to be addictive... its a dopamine releasing agent/re-uptake inhibitor - basically the definition of an addictive drug from a neuropharmacology viewpoint (just like meth except less potency and basically no intrinsic serotonergic activity)
Very true!...
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Read the sticky about meth on the top of the forums in this section, its great!
Also, meth is very similar to other amphetamines, about 1.3-1.5 times as strong as dex which is the main amphetmaine in adderall.
If you are used to taking 30mg of adderall, I would start out with no more than 30mg meth etc... remember that unlike adderall you can never be 100% sure of how many mg of methamphetamine you are actually taking, street meth can be as low as 10% pure while some of the stuff here on SR is over 90% pure but it can never be more than 100% pure so when trying a new batch always assume the amount you weight out is 100% pure meth to be safe and adjust from there.
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why am i getting cold hands and feet on meth! i hate it , no vitamins cure it either!
ahhhhhh
its really strange, i smoked maybe 60-80mg today, and the smoking last only 2 hours and i start to come down hard. and feel like shit, irritable and whatever...
i noticed last night that after 2 hours is up, i could head to bed. which i did and got a shitty 4 hour sleep!
amazing, but true!
kind of makes me wonder
i just want to get rid of my remainder before friday, so i don't have to deal with this stuff again (srs)
fun, but not for me to get addicted to, and waste my life on.
i tried heroin this past week before meth for my first time, and that is another drug i would never really be willing to buy again (even though the high was second to a poppy pod high, the addictiveness(and goodness of the shit) will always bring me back if i wasn't careful.)
i already wasted 2 years of my life on various other drugs, got clean for 1 year 1/2. now here i am
a person with self-control and moderation !
so i've learned that these drugs with very high addiction rates, are not worth for me to fuck around with
i don't have time for it. i work 6 days a week, and i workout 6 days a week as well.
when i do drugs, i can't workout, and that is my love.
so, all in all if a person is focused on goals in there life and has direction, its a straight shooter!
no interest in buying meth (no fiending) after this is done
so, you guys were all wrong, who doubted me!
thanks =)
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You either got shitty meth, didn't do it right or are full of shit. Probably one of the first two. The reason I say that is with quality meth sleep won't be happening 2hrs after consumption unless you are doing something wrong or been up for a very long time. I'll choose H any day over meth.
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Yeah, sounds to me you got some bad quality also. True quality meth, you won't sleep or eat. Also, you won't be thinking. "I just wanna finish off the bag." You'll be thinking. "Damn, i shoulda saved some of that bag."
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You either got shitty meth, didn't do it right or are full of shit. Probably one of the first two. The reason I say that is with quality meth sleep won't be happening 2hrs after consumption unless you are doing something wrong or been up for a very long time. I'll choose H any day over meth.
interesting guys. i got the best quality on SR from KUSH
no cut, because it is a veiny crystalization when i melt the product
maybe i have a different brain chemistry. i think this may be the case. i have gotten an average of 4 hours of sleep the last 3 nights, this could have something to do with it.
and i'm about 80% sure im ok on my smoking technique in my stem
last night i was able to smoke a bowl , at 1 :15 am, and around 330-4 i was getting tired and passed out, with the help of one benadryl.
i snorted today also for the first time this morning. definitely should coin this "super coke".
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You either got shitty meth, didn't do it right or are full of shit. Probably one of the first two. The reason I say that is with quality meth sleep won't be happening 2hrs after consumption unless you are doing something wrong or been up for a very long time. I'll choose H any day over meth.
interesting guys. i got the best quality on SR from KUSH
no cut, because it is a veiny crystalization when i melt the product
maybe i have a different brain chemistry. i think this may be the case. i have gotten an average of 4 hours of sleep the last 3 nights, this could have something to do with it.
and i'm about 80% sure im ok on my smoking technique in my stem
last night i was able to smoke a bowl , at 1 :15 am, and around 330-4 i was getting tired and passed out, with the help of one benadryl.
i snorted today also for the first time this morning. definitely should coin this "super coke".
You don't smoke meth in the same way you smoke crack. You need a meth pipe not a stem.
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moderate = twice a week
abuse = twice a day
just my 2c
the under over for him being alive and/or not in jail is 3/5 years.
now taking bets!
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sorry wrong word for the pipe.
it is a meth pipe.
i can get pretty decent hits, not huge huge dragon clouds though, like people speak of
also to the last poster, haha
the thing about the internet, is that you can only say so much in words, but it really all comes down to the real life "right or wrong"
i have a choice
the choice is: abuse said drug, and waste more months and years off my life, of not remembering shit, fucking my family over etc.
OR
i could not abuse it, use in moderation, have self-control and not ever use it again at all
for me, like is said, words only speak so loud.
the side effects, and damage i've done from a drug (physically/mentally) are wearing enough, to say "fuck no i'm not going back"
but if you are a person who is coined an addict, you know the insides and outs.
if you have been to rehab you know what i mean, i will never end up back there, but i did it for myself a year 1/2 ago.
so. in the end i'm sorry if you have a more psychologically addicting personality.
YESSS, heroin and METH are fucking addicting drugs(the most addicting i've ever touched)
but the point of the matter is, that i understand this!
and i can let it ruin my life again if i was not careful
BACK to the topic though
i'm smoking the best quality on SR
i might like snorting better, MUCH more energy for me from snorting
smoking is more like, relaxed energy, tweaked, mind-fuck nice high
thoughts?
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sorry wrong word for the pipe.
it is a meth pipe.
i can get pretty decent hits, not huge huge dragon clouds though, like people speak of
also to the last poster, haha
the thing about the internet, is that you can only say so much in words, but it really all comes down to the real life "right or wrong"
i have a choice
the choice is: abuse said drug, and waste more months and years off my life, of not remembering shit, fucking my family over etc.
OR
i could not abuse it, use in moderation, have self-control and not ever use it again at all
for me, like is said, words only speak so loud.
the side effects, and damage i've done from a drug (physically/mentally) are wearing enough, to say "fuck no i'm not going back"
but if you are a person who is coined an addict, you know the insides and outs.
if you have been to rehab you know what i mean, i will never end up back there, but i did it for myself a year 1/2 ago.
so. in the end i'm sorry if you have a more psychologically addicting personality.
YESSS, heroin and METH are fucking addicting drugs(the most addicting i've ever touched)
but the point of the matter is, that i understand this!
and i can let it ruin my life again if i was not careful
BACK to the topic though
i'm smoking the best quality on SR
i might like snorting better, MUCH more energy for me from snorting
smoking is more like, relaxed energy, tweaked, mind-fuck nice high
thoughts?
That's intresting. Snorting normally messes my head up. Smoking normally feels smoother to me. Sometimes taking a hit can be relaxing to me.
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
If you belive yawning means lack of oxygen. If someone yawns next to you, do you then yawn because they took more oxygen out the room? Did you just yawn thinking about yawning?
If i smoke too much in too short of a time period i'll pant like a dog. It makes no sense, but sure enough it'll happen. I've checked my o2 stats during this and they are fine. If i think about it, i can stop it. But, if i'm not paying attetion to it, sometimes other will notice and ask me if i'm ok. I belive i'm hyperventalating, but if i think about it i can stop it so i'm assuming it's anxiety. (I normally get it when i'm crashing and not during or right after smoking sessions.)
Also, onset of snorting is 3 to 5 minutes. So that explains why you feel it goes straight to the dome haha.
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
If you belive yawning means lack of oxygen. If someone yawns next to you, do you then yawn because they took more oxygen out the room? Did you just yawn thinking about yawning?
If i smoke too much in too short of a time period i'll pant like a dog. It makes no sense, but sure enough it'll happen. I've checked my o2 stats during this and they are fine. If i think about it, i can stop it. But, if i'm not paying attetion to it, sometimes other will notice and ask me if i'm ok. I belive i'm hyperventalating, but if i think about it i can stop it so i'm assuming it's anxiety. (I normally get it when i'm crashing and not during or right after smoking sessions.)
interesting man, yeah i will take a break from smoking tomorrow
my lungs are totally fucked today, have to take deep breaths, and have to catch my breath!
fuckkkkkkkk
not going to smoke meth again =/
it honestly feels like i smoked 3 packs a day since i started smoking meth this monday( thats how my lungs feel)
when i chain smoke cigarettes or have too much in a certain amount of time, the same shit happens with my lungs!!!!
snorting it is then!!
guys what is a normal dose that people do during a day of meth?
like what do people snort in one-go? 30-50mg?
i am curious
Also, onset of snorting is 3 to 5 minutes. So that explains why you feel it goes straight to the dome haha.
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
If you belive yawning means lack of oxygen. If someone yawns next to you, do you then yawn because they took more oxygen out the room? Did you just yawn thinking about yawning?
If i smoke too much in too short of a time period i'll pant like a dog. It makes no sense, but sure enough it'll happen. I've checked my o2 stats during this and they are fine. If i think about it, i can stop it. But, if i'm not paying attetion to it, sometimes other will notice and ask me if i'm ok. I belive i'm hyperventalating, but if i think about it i can stop it so i'm assuming it's anxiety. (I normally get it when i'm crashing and not during or right after smoking sessions.)
interesting man, yeah i will take a break from smoking tomorrow
my lungs are totally fucked today, have to take deep breaths, and have to catch my breath!
fuckkkkkkkk
not going to smoke meth again =/
it honestly feels like i smoked 3 packs a day since i started smoking meth this monday( thats how my lungs feel)
when i chain smoke cigarettes or have too much in a certain amount of time, the same shit happens with my lungs!!!!
snorting it is then!!
guys what is a normal dose that people do during a day of meth?
like what do people snort in one-go? 30-50mg?
i am curious
Also, onset of snorting is 3 to 5 minutes. So that explains why you feel it goes straight to the dome haha.
Your dope tends to go a lot further when you snort it also. :P What vendor do you use on the regular?
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the choice is: abuse said drug, and waste more months and years off my life, of not remembering shit, fucking my family over etc.
OR
i could not abuse it, use in moderation, have self-control and not ever use it again at all
for me, like is said, words only speak so loud.
the side effects, and damage i've done from a drug (physically/mentally) are wearing enough, to say "fuck no i'm not going back"
but if you are a person who is coined an addict, you know the insides and outs.
if you have been to rehab you know what i mean, i will never end up back there, but i did it for myself a year 1/2 ago.
I have been to rehab, and I do not agree with you. I can not drink. I know this and I don't mess around with that shit. I can handle a half a glass of wine and that is it. I can't go to bars or anything like that. That is what they teach you in rehab. They can't teach you control in rehab, you must not have been paying attention at all. The point of rehab is that self control and willpower are useless against your drug of choice. You are really only deluding yourself. But if you have to learn the hard way then so be it, just be safe and don't do anything dangerous, be sure you have some type of sedative like a xanax or valium at hand in case you overdo it.
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
If you belive yawning means lack of oxygen. If someone yawns next to you, do you then yawn because they took more oxygen out the room? Did you just yawn thinking about yawning?
If i smoke too much in too short of a time period i'll pant like a dog. It makes no sense, but sure enough it'll happen. I've checked my o2 stats during this and they are fine. If i think about it, i can stop it. But, if i'm not paying attetion to it, sometimes other will notice and ask me if i'm ok. I belive i'm hyperventalating, but if i think about it i can stop it so i'm assuming it's anxiety. (I normally get it when i'm crashing and not during or right after smoking sessions.)
interesting man, yeah i will take a break from smoking tomorrow
my lungs are totally fucked today, have to take deep breaths, and have to catch my breath!
fuckkkkkkkk
not going to smoke meth again =/
it honestly feels like i smoked 3 packs a day since i started smoking meth this monday( thats how my lungs feel)
when i chain smoke cigarettes or have too much in a certain amount of time, the same shit happens with my lungs!!!!
snorting it is then!!
guys what is a normal dose that people do during a day of meth?
like what do people snort in one-go? 30-50mg?
i am curious
Also, onset of snorting is 3 to 5 minutes. So that explains why you feel it goes straight to the dome haha.
Your dope tends to go a lot further when you snort it also. :P What vendor do you use on the regular?
this is good to know !
kush is my go to guy for now!
how about yourself?
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it's weird.
when i snort, i get a rush immediately <3 minutes.
and it goes "straight to my dome"
intense !
smoking is just hella fiendish, to me. and i think it may waste more product in the process?
and snorting feels like im super productive, maybe even a bit edgier than smoking to be honest
Yeah i can get a little cranky when snorting it. People just move too damn slow when i snort it. Also, smoking doesn't waste much if you have proper tools and know how to properly run the ice. Smoking anything is normally fiendish. What i found really weird about ice is that shooting it (The few times i played with the needle.) seemed to be less fiendish than smoking. Well, i guess i could say i wouldn't fiend as long. It seemed i would approch baseline quicker with shooting vs smoking which felt like a smoother comedown.
I normally go through drpvmd. He's got amazing product, and his packaging is just badass.
another strange thing i noted
i tend to yawn a bit after i smoke +20 minutes
maybe it is due to lack of oxygen or something
but it happened even after my first time i smoked, i yawned about 20-30 minutes later
like i was genuinely tired or some shit haha, but still energy, and heart pumping
how weird, right?
If you belive yawning means lack of oxygen. If someone yawns next to you, do you then yawn because they took more oxygen out the room? Did you just yawn thinking about yawning?
If i smoke too much in too short of a time period i'll pant like a dog. It makes no sense, but sure enough it'll happen. I've checked my o2 stats during this and they are fine. If i think about it, i can stop it. But, if i'm not paying attetion to it, sometimes other will notice and ask me if i'm ok. I belive i'm hyperventalating, but if i think about it i can stop it so i'm assuming it's anxiety. (I normally get it when i'm crashing and not during or right after smoking sessions.)
interesting man, yeah i will take a break from smoking tomorrow
my lungs are totally fucked today, have to take deep breaths, and have to catch my breath!
fuckkkkkkkk
not going to smoke meth again =/
it honestly feels like i smoked 3 packs a day since i started smoking meth this monday( thats how my lungs feel)
when i chain smoke cigarettes or have too much in a certain amount of time, the same shit happens with my lungs!!!!
snorting it is then!!
guys what is a normal dose that people do during a day of meth?
like what do people snort in one-go? 30-50mg?
i am curious
Also, onset of snorting is 3 to 5 minutes. So that explains why you feel it goes straight to the dome haha.
Your dope tends to go a lot further when you snort it also. :P What vendor do you use on the regular?
this is good to know !
kush is my go to guy for now!
how about yourself?
drpvmd, but i've been using hammertime reccently.
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i think the comedown from meth has got to be the worst of all
i did a line at 1 and didnt eat until 9 now. i thought i was about to rape someone in the ass, because of my irritability, extreme headache, weird head feelings. almost broke up with my girlfriend due to her not responding back to me.
the comedown alone, makes me never want to use this drug in excess ever again. jesus :o
luckily i just did a small line to keep me maintenance until tomorrow when my benzos & or heroin arrive for withdrawal !
wish me luck =)
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BS, adderall is a non-addictive drug?
can you please provide some evidence and cite the sources for that claim?
imo it most certainly has the potential to be addictive... its a dopamine releasing agent/re-uptake inhibitor - basically the definition of an addictive drug from a neuropharmacology viewpoint (just like meth except less potency and basically no intrinsic serotonergic activity)
I don't need science I have 7 years of personal experience. Personal experience is paramount when it comes to drug discussion. Yes it 'has the potential to be addictive' the same way that pot does, its just as little physical addiction as THC aka NONE! Anyone can get addicted to anything, but adderall is not that addictive. As a comparison I would say Alcohol is FAR more addictive.
And one authoritative source that I do have in my Doctor, who is a pediatrician and has been my pediatrician since I was born. He is a Mormon, has probably never had a sip of alcohol. I have a pretty severe anxiety disorder and the most benzos he has ever prescribed was two 10mg valium, for a whole month. I have had acute alcohol withdrawal/anxiety episodes where I called him essentially begging him for a small script of benzo and he said no because of addiction potential, and I was suffering. Not only is he highly conservative and responsible, but being a pediatrician he has special expertise in ADD/ADHD medications since they are so commonly used in adolescents. He has been prescribing me adderall/vyvanse for 7 years, I usually take one every morning for 3 out of 4 weeks and sell or trade a small amount, and go off them at the end of every month, "going off them" makes it seems like something that is difficult to do. Its the easiest thing ever, other than if you are in college and have to do that type of shit, its just a tool its not an addictive drug.
I would say dextro-amphetamine is about as addictive as caffeine, its just way better, and caffeine arguably has more adverse physical side effects.
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i think the comedown from meth has got to be the worst of all
i did a line at 1 and didnt eat until 9 now. i thought i was about to rape someone in the ass, because of my irritability, extreme headache, weird head feelings. almost broke up with my girlfriend due to her not responding back to me.
the comedown alone, makes me never want to use this drug in excess ever again. jesus :o
luckily i just did a small line to keep me maintenance until tomorrow when my benzos & or heroin arrive for withdrawal !
wish me luck =)
You should get your shit together haha. Meth+Heroin+benzos, yeah rehab worked wonders for you obviously...
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BS, adderall is a non-addictive drug?
can you please provide some evidence and cite the sources for that claim?
imo it most certainly has the potential to be addictive... its a dopamine releasing agent/re-uptake inhibitor - basically the definition of an addictive drug from a neuropharmacology viewpoint (just like meth except less potency and basically no intrinsic serotonergic activity)
I don't need science I have 7 years of personal experience. Personal experience is paramount when it comes to drug discussion. Yes it 'has the potential to be addictive' the same way that pot does, its just as little physical addiction as THC aka NONE! Anyone can get addicted to anything, but adderall is not that addictive. As a comparison I would say Alcohol is FAR more addictive.
And one authoritative source that I do have in my Doctor, who is a pediatrician and has been my pediatrician since I was born. He is a Mormon, has probably never had a sip of alcohol. I have a pretty severe anxiety disorder and the most benzos he has ever prescribed was two 10mg valium, for a whole month. Not only is he highly conservative and responsible, but being a pediatrician he has special expertise in ADD/ADHD medications since they are so commonly used in adolescents. He has been prescribing me adderall/vyvanse for 7 years, I usually take one every morning for 3 out of 4 weeks and sell or trade a small amount, and go off them at the end of every month, "going off them" makes it seems like something that is difficult to do. Its the easiest thing ever, other than if you are in college and have to do that type of shit, its just a tool its not an addictive drug.
I would say dextro-amphetamine is about as addictive as caffeine, its just way better, and caffeine arguably has more adverse physical side effects.
thank you, from the word of the wise.
to any other poster. i never stated that i was addicted to adderall, this was words out of your mouth!
i checked myself into rehab, because things were not the same, life had changed on me in the blink of an eye, and realized where i had begun with drugs, and the end when i decided to get help. if i had still been doing adderall and benzos everyday, i'm sure i wouldn't be alive, i would just be souless. i took lots of adderall, and i took lots of benzos, i also took a shit load of psychedelics, more than some people will ever do in there lifetime in a 2 year period (srs) .
adderall, in small amounts is beneficial. but when you just want to get "fucked up" , you will take as much to feel any certain amount of desired effect. even if this was to just lift some depression, or social anxiety, whatever it may be. it was all an escape for me, a load of crock shit. i took drugs on the regular to fill voids, take drugs to superficially feel better. this is the wrong way to live! big pharmaceuticals can suck my cock, IMO . i will never go back on any medications, i tried about 3 anti depressants, and quit all of them within 3 days due to shit side effects.
i am diagnosed with slight ADD, but do i feel the need to take adderall these days? fuck no, i took all of those drugs for fun, manipulated my doctor, get higher dosages. even though i had proper documentation, i was a drug addict, and what are drug addicts best AT? manipulation.
so yeah, haven't been on any pharmaceuticals for a year 1/2 or done any other drugs besides recently =)
i am a new man, due to the changes in my life. i can control and help myself if i choose to.
if i don't choose to, it will lead me right back to rehab, a place where i will never end up again !
thanks for your time hahahaah
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i think the comedown from meth has got to be the worst of all
i did a line at 1 and didnt eat until 9 now. i thought i was about to rape someone in the ass, because of my irritability, extreme headache, weird head feelings. almost broke up with my girlfriend due to her not responding back to me.
the comedown alone, makes me never want to use this drug in excess ever again. jesus :o
luckily i just did a small line to keep me maintenance until tomorrow when my benzos & or heroin arrive for withdrawal !
wish me luck =)
You should get your shit together haha. Meth+Heroin+benzos, yeah rehab worked wonders for you obviously...
Seriously. This is just sad and depressing having to witness the level of denial and willful ignorance in this thread. It makes me hope that he is not a minor and that he doesn't end up too bad off before he quits or gets help. :(
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I have never heard of a single person ever taking adderall "to get fucked up" as you say, and I have kicked it with a whole lot of drug heads in my day. THats just not something normal people do. If adderall is "fucking you up" you probably took a dangerously high dose/overdose and I have no patience or sympathy for that kind of stupidity.
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It really is pretty sad. If you take huge amounts of adderall to "get fucked up" and "escape" you probably got some serious issues hah. What the fuck is wrong with alcohol? Hah, anyway, get help man. Go back to rehab, go to a better one, get a good psycho-therapist, something. Because your whole attitude and approach towards substances is pretty fucked up as far as I can tell.
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It really is pretty sad. If you take huge amounts of adderall to "get fucked up" and "escape" you probably got some serious issues hah. What the fuck is wrong with alcohol? Hah, anyway, get help man. Go back to rehab, go to a better one, get a good psycho-therapist, something. Because your whole demeanor and approach towards substances is pretty fucked up as far as I can tell.
wow you guys are fucked in the head, seriously
if you were perscribed xxxx amount of drugs. went to college, parents paid for everything, had the time of your life.
and were young dumb and stupid, you would do a fuck load amount of drugs with your friends right?
only makes sense , especially the place i live, it is all rich people. so
you, only can take so much from an internet conversation my friend.
wait, really did i not explain myself enough in my posts. are you guys delusional, is this real life?
for the guy that has been to rehab, do you have any relatives, family members that have addictive personalities?
i could only imagine the line of people in your family.
luckily for me there was no one that was addicted to drugs. i did drugs regularly to alleviate the pain i went through growing up, i didn't enjoy it, struggled in school, many many many many many many things, i don't even want to go into.
so, this was my escape.
i myself, checked myself into rehab, because my life was just shit. i had a beautiful girlfriend at the time, but i was just not right in the head, you realize many things when you do drugs, especially psychedelics. realize what went wrong and what i could do better. this was rock bottom though, depression was the worst , and anxiety to the max.
so, i would never say i was addicted to one single drug. i loved to do every drug
and when you go to rehab motherfuckers, they coin you an addict, whether you like it or not
i went to rehab for help , mentally. i needed support. not therapist support, because i tried that shit, mostly group shit where i could interact and connect with other fellow people like me
so you guys have your heads wayyyyyyy up your asses to think otherwise. never judge a person through the internet, appreciate you deep concern though. good luck
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I have never heard of a single person ever taking adderall "to get fucked up" as you say, and I have kicked it with a whole lot of drug heads in my day. THats just not something normal people do. If adderall is "fucking you up" you probably took a dangerously high dose/overdose and I have no patience or sympathy for that kind of stupidity.
How can you judge someone for overdosing? Most overdoses are accidental. You've never overdosed? I find that hard to belive if you have used drugs and hung around the people you claim.
Addy's were the first stimulant i played with. That's when i discovered my love for speed. They were a nice escape from the everyday grind. I attended school, played on the football team, and worked a part time job. Having something that helped me get through was an escape.
It wasn't until six years later i tried meth. Baby steps. :P I knew that meth was going to be one of my loved drugs the momment i took that first hit. The thing is i'm able to put the stimulants away eaiser than xanax. I had an addiction to xanax and quit cold turkey leading to seizures. (Brain feeling like it's melting.) That was the hardest thing i ever quit. Quitting nicotine, and caffiene, and addys had nothing on xanax. But, to each is own. Some people can kick downers easy, some people can kick uppers easy, and some shouldn't touch either.
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Be careful with meth.... The first time i tried it i didnt enjoy it AT ALL. It made me feel like shit for 12 hours after the high was done. For some reason a couple months later it was offered to me and i thought fuck it why not (in full knowledge of how it made me feel last time) So i smoked it again and this time it was alright but nothing special. same story a couple more months later and this time i actually enjoyed it! After the 3rd time smoking this substance i got subtle cravings for it and would purchase a small amount here and there. A couple days ago i bought a gram and i couldnt stop doing it every day until i realized what i was doing(today) I dumped the rest in the toilet and flushed it because i know if i had it i would do it tommorow and every day after ..... Now this scared the shit out of me and im never using it again... easy does it friends
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Be careful with meth.... The first time i tried it i didnt enjoy it AT ALL. It made me feel like shit for 12 hours after the high was done. For some reason a couple months later it was offered to me and i thought fuck it why not (in full knowledge of how it made me feel last time) So i smoked it again and this time it was alright but nothing special. same story a couple more months later and this time i actually enjoyed it! After the 3rd time smoking this substance i got subtle cravings for it and would purchase a small amount here and there. A couple days ago i bought a gram and i couldnt stop doing it every day until i realized what i was doing(today) I dumped the rest in the toilet and flushed it because i know if i had it i would do it tommorow and every day after ..... Now this scared the shit out of me and im never using it again... easy does it friends
How long did that gram last you before you flushed it? I can't seem to stretch a gram past 4 days. Normally i'll blow through a gram in 3.
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It really is pretty sad. If you take huge amounts of adderall to "get fucked up" and "escape" you probably got some serious issues hah. What the fuck is wrong with alcohol? Hah, anyway, get help man. Go back to rehab, go to a better one, get a good psycho-therapist, something. Because your whole demeanor and approach towards substances is pretty fucked up as far as I can tell.
wow you guys are fucked in the head, seriously
if you were perscribed xxxx amount of drugs. went to college, parents paid for everything, had the time of your life.
and were young dumb and stupid, you would do a fuck load amount of drugs with your friends right?
only makes sense , especially the place i live, it is all rich people. so
you, only can take so much from an internet conversation my friend.
wait, really did i not explain myself enough in my posts. are you guys delusional, is this real life?
for the guy that has been to rehab, do you have any relatives, family members that have addictive personalities?
i could only imagine the line of people in your family.
luckily for me there was no one that was addicted to drugs. i did drugs regularly to alleviate the pain i went through growing up, i didn't enjoy it, struggled in school, many many many many many many things, i don't even want to go into.
so, this was my escape.
i myself, checked myself into rehab, because my life was just shit. i had a beautiful girlfriend at the time, but i was just not right in the head, you realize many things when you do drugs, especially psychedelics. realize what went wrong and what i could do better. this was rock bottom though, depression was the worst , and anxiety to the max.
so, i would never say i was addicted to one single drug. i loved to do every drug
and when you go to rehab motherfuckers, they coin you an addict, whether you like it or not
i went to rehab for help , mentally. i needed support. not therapist support, because i tried that shit, mostly group shit where i could interact and connect with other fellow people like me
so you guys have your heads wayyyyyyy up your asses to think otherwise. never judge a person through the internet, appreciate you deep concern though. good luck
You know...this is exactly what my fiance did, thought, said before he overdosed and died in his sleep 369 days ago. Man, I am so sorry that you've convinced yourself that you're not an addict but you know you're a master manipulator...to everyone. You know better than anyone that you've mastered the art in deceiving not just yourself (and you're full aware of your own bullshit) but everyone around you too.
I know you're convinced you have things under control. But look at the posts that you've made on this thread (before and after doing the meth). Take a look at how you've blatantly disregarded everyone's advice on how much of a devil this drug can be. Take a look at yourself in the mirror. Seriously, go ahead and find a shiny, reflective surface and tell me you see a whole person.
I must, however, state that I am proud of you for asking for advice, instead of completely blindly jumping into this with no knowledge whatsoever; perhaps that will save you from killing yourself(believe I don't wish this on you or anyone-simply meant death can happen unfortunately).
As a final word, I heed, an addict myself, having loved (still love) an addict that put me through so much hell and has lost his life, I strongly recommend that you as an addict, put the drugs away before your demons consume you.
“There is something in our self-destructive personalities that cries for failure.”
Basic Text, p. 80
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BTW, no one kick my a$$ for quoting NA. Please?
I don't go to the meetings, but the quote I posted above, is so very true for me.
More of a reflective ending to the essay I wrote...
(Note: I do not have any sort of interesting ending to this post...)
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Meth does have a terriable comedown. That's why most people refer to it as a crash. Most people don't take care of themself during the high leading to a horriable crash. They allow themself to go through starvation, dehydration, sleep deprivation, and some don't keep up with proper hygiene. Those things alone would make a person feel terriable.
When i first get my bag, i start my timer. (It's an app on my phone that goes off every hour and makes a differant sound every 6 hours.) When the first timer goes off it. I ask myself have i been drinking plenty of water in the last hour? On average i'll drink anywhere between 4 to 6 bottles of water a day. When the timer goes off at the 6 hour mark. I force myself to eat something. It doens't have to be a full course meal, but something to put in my tummy and i drink a protien shake. I also take various vitamin supplements such as multi, b complex, vitamin c, and various herbs. I've actually got to the point where my brain is becoming conditioned to wanting something to eat every 6 hours. It's differant than being hungry. It's more of a thought that pops in my head that says. "It's time to eat something now"
If you think meth has a bad comedown, you have no idea what you're in for when it comes to benzo and H WD's. I wish you the best of luck.
I hope you don't have to become addicted to stop or loose everything you love. Playing with such powerful things is a slipery slope. You're literaly gambling with your brain chemistry. I can't judge because i do the same.
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I have never heard of a single person ever taking adderall "to get fucked up" as you say, and I have kicked it with a whole lot of drug heads in my day. THats just not something normal people do. If adderall is "fucking you up" you probably took a dangerously high dose/overdose and I have no patience or sympathy for that kind of stupidity.
How can you judge someone for overdosing? Most overdoses are accidental. You've never overdosed? I find that hard to belive if you have used drugs and hung around the people you claim.
Addy's were the first stimulant i played with. That's when i discovered my love for speed. They were a nice escape from the everyday grind. I attended school, played on the football team, and worked a part time job. Having something that helped me get through was an escape.
It wasn't until six years later i tried meth. Baby steps. :P I knew that meth was going to be one of my loved drugs the momment i took that first hit. The thing is i'm able to put the stimulants away eaiser than xanax. I had an addiction to xanax and quit cold turkey leading to seizures. (Brain feeling like it's melting.) That was the hardest thing i ever quit. Quitting nicotine, and caffiene, and addys had nothing on xanax. But, to each is own. Some people can kick downers easy, some people can kick uppers easy, and some shouldn't touch either.
I have been highly addicted to xanax, I have generalized anxiety disorder. SO I feel you on benzo withdrawal, it is hell. THAT is a highly addictive substance. But no, I have never overdosed, and an 'accidental overdose' to me should be reserved for illegal powders when you have no idea what the purity is. Prescription drug overdoses shoudl 99% of the time be at least subconsciously on purpose, or just out of 'willful ignorance' just like homie above said. I just disagree that amphetamine is inherently an "escape." Of course it could be depending on the individual, and I am in no way speaking on Meth, but is Caffeine an 'escape' for millions of people? There are used in almost the exact same way, and have about equivalent addiction and abuse potential...
Nictotine, now that is a highly addictive drug, with very low return for the risk. I've never had too much of an issue, but damn I know the science behind the addictiveness of nicotine. Same as alcohol, and they are both legal most places which makes it tougher. I'm saying that d-amphetamine has a lower addictiveness/abuse potential than alcohol and nicotine, and is about on par with caffeine in those respects. Thats my main point.
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i couldnt stop doing it every day until i realized what i was doing(today) I dumped the rest in the toilet and flushed it because i know if i had it i would do it tommorow and every day after ..... Now this scared the shit out of me and im never using it again... easy does it friends
Congratulations on that my friend. I have done the toilet flush with xanax and vicodin, and am close to doing some number deleting in my phone for opiate connects. But I will never touch Meth. You said to yourself 'Why not?' Next time ask yourself that question twice and actually time to think about the answer hah. Props again.
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I have never heard of a single person ever taking adderall "to get fucked up" as you say, and I have kicked it with a whole lot of drug heads in my day. THats just not something normal people do. If adderall is "fucking you up" you probably took a dangerously high dose/overdose and I have no patience or sympathy for that kind of stupidity.
How can you judge someone for overdosing? Most overdoses are accidental. You've never overdosed? I find that hard to belive if you have used drugs and hung around the people you claim.
Addy's were the first stimulant i played with. That's when i discovered my love for speed. They were a nice escape from the everyday grind. I attended school, played on the football team, and worked a part time job. Having something that helped me get through was an escape.
It wasn't until six years later i tried meth. Baby steps. :P I knew that meth was going to be one of my loved drugs the momment i took that first hit. The thing is i'm able to put the stimulants away eaiser than xanax. I had an addiction to xanax and quit cold turkey leading to seizures. (Brain feeling like it's melting.) That was the hardest thing i ever quit. Quitting nicotine, and caffiene, and addys had nothing on xanax. But, to each is own. Some people can kick downers easy, some people can kick uppers easy, and some shouldn't touch either.
I have been highly addicted to xanax, I have generalized anxiety disorder. SO I feel you on benzo withdrawal, it is hell. THAT is a highly addictive substance. But no, I have never overdosed, and an 'accidental overdose' to me should be reserved for illegal powders when you have no idea what the purity is. Prescription drug overdoses shoudl 99% of the time be at least subconsciously on purpose, or just out of 'willful ignorance' just like homie above said. I just disagree that amphetamine is inherently an "escape." Of course it could be depending on the individual, and I am in no way speaking on Meth, but is Caffeine an 'escape' for millions of people? There are used in almost the exact same way, and have about equivalent addiction and abuse potential...
Nictotine, now that is a highly addictive drug, with very low return for the risk. I've never had too much of an issue, but damn I know the science behind the addictiveness of nicotine. Same as alcohol, and they are both legal most places which makes it tougher. I'm saying that d-amphetamine has a lower addictiveness/abuse potential than alcohol and nicotine, and is about on par with caffeine in those respects. Thats my main point.
Ok thank you very much for elaborating your point. Now that i understand it more clearly. I can say that i agree with a few of your points.
I agree about overdosing with prescription medication vs powders. You contradicted yourself on the point about aderall being an escape, but i think i can see your point. You have a differant definition of escape. What substances do you belive are used to escape?
Also, i think when you compare substances on how addictive they are based on your life experiences. It makes it harder to understand why others have a certian problem with other substances or even activites. I know a women that is addicted to changing her clothes many times a day. I understand that it's common for some women, but she literaly freaks out if she can't change her clothes at least seven times each day. She plans every morning these outfit changes and plans them to a certian time in the day. I normally change my clothes after a shower and going to bed. My point is that you might not see amphetamine being a more addictive substance than caffeine, but i've yet to see someone rob someone over a cup of tea. I can't say the same about amphetamine.
i couldnt stop doing it every day until i realized what i was doing(today) I dumped the rest in the toilet and flushed it because i know if i had it i would do it tommorow and every day after ..... Now this scared the shit out of me and im never using it again... easy does it friends
Congratulations on that my friend. I have done the toilet flush with xanax and vicodin, and am close to doing some number deleting in my phone for opiate connects. But I will never touch Meth. You said to yourself 'Why not?' Next time ask yourself that question twice and actually time to think about the answer hah. Props again.
Why won't you touch meth? I understand if you belive that you won't have self control with meth and if that is the case than i hope you don't touch meth. I wouldn't wish an addiction on my worst enemy.
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"My point is that you might not see amphetamine being a more addictive substance than caffeine, but i've yet to see someone rob someone over a cup of tea. I can't say the same about amphetamine."
You can't? I sure as shit can, who the fuck does that? Anyway, with every substance there are subjective and objective aspects of their degree of addictiveness. What I am saying is that objectively speaking d-amphetamine is not an addictive substance.